A "KOM" or "QOM" should only be for a categorized climb Segment

I'm of the mindset, that unless the segment is a categorized climb, there should be no KOM trophies.  Maybe that's a bit extreme, but it should not be a KOM, unless its meet some climbing criteria, e.g. +3% grade for +0.75 mile minimum.  

Instead of trophies for segment leaders, jerseys more appropriate to the segment would make more sense.

For example, real climbs should get a polka dot jersey (not a real jersey, just an icon instead of the trophy), and it should be the only segment given the KOM moniker.  Flat, one mile/kilometer or less sprints should green jerseys, and long 15+ mile segments with climbs, flats, descents should be given the coveted yellow jerseys.  

Lastly, in no way, should descents ever be called a King of the Mountain.  I don't necessarily advocate that downhill segments should go away, but since they are not ever issued points or awards in real competition, should left as least significant of all the segments.  Ribbon icons, or PR's, but not a trophy or jersey.

We all ride with what I call the "segment chaser" guys, who sit in the back of a group all day, only to jump out near the end of a segment, all rested up, speeding past the group, seeking a new PR.  On descents, these people are careless and dangerous, or just make things needlessly chaotic and dangerous for those of us who are training and working together for the benefit of the group/club/team/etc..

Please find a way to make real and challenging segments more rewarding, than easy top speed oriented descent segments.  All those big guys who want to smash it down a hill, can save it for the club ride sprints.

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  • Furthermore, on a individuals home/profile pages, could be a running total of how many of each jersey they have accumulated.  How many they've won or are defending.  How many they've won and lost, and who their "arch rivals" are for a particular jersey (who they are in the top 5 most often with)

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  • Very cool idea indeed! 

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  • This is kind of how I would envision this idea.....

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  • I like this idea so much. This came up during a post-ride chat just yesterday. Almost none of my KOM's are legitimate (>3%)climbs, they are mostly sprints and false flat climbs. As a sprinter, it would be nice to be recognized as a sprinter instead of lumping those efforts in with climbs. Typically you see people who get lots of real climbing KOM's and people who get lots of sprinting KOM's, rarely both. It would be very cool to be able to look at someone's ride or profile and see that they climb well or sprint well at a glance.

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  • This is a clever idea for updating the terminology used in Strava.  Its use has evolved since it started, it makes sense to bring the terminology more in line with how it is used.  The jersey idea is very clever.  

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  • I like the idea a lot as well, however I would add that something should be given for descents.  I understand that in road cycling the descents and not awarded, however there are countless mountain bike segments as well.  The mountain bike segments and that user group should not be ignored and performing well on technical descents is a skill and is often raced.  Popular formats for MTB race are Cross Country (XC), Enduro, and downhill.  I am no downhill or enduro guy but any new system could not simply ignore such a group.  That being said I would love to try for a yellow jersey on a longer XC MTB segment!

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  • NO I disagree. KOMs or what ever you would like to call them come into sprint points, ciricuits, TTs and in general a good way to track performance on a given route. there are many uses for the KOM segment feature. If you you like rated climbs...go after those KOMs if you like to TT...go after those, short popper sprints up a sharp short grade...go after those KOMs. Hope you don't change it. We all have a blast with our little KOM competitions.

     

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  • You missed the point completely. It's calling a segment leader something more applicable to what the segment is. KOM stands for King Of the Mountain. Call a sprint a sprint, a KOM a KOM, etc. It's not taking away your challenge, it's just being accurate as to what you call it, based on it's geography.
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  • ERIC, I would agree with you if they can break those things out like that. seem like it should be something they could do based on certain criteria. Actually would love to see the green jersey next to my name! Also the polka dot! I would just hate to see them limit segments to categorized climbs. that's all.

     

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  • I'm not suggesting segments go away.
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  • Hi Eric

    thanks for pointing me out to this posts. glad there are people with the same ideas.

    Yes i agreed with your thoughts, and also Ed Warner there. Its mostly about the terminologies for different kind of segments we've made. shouldnt be hard for Strava Programmers to do.

    the jersey icons would also be a nice littlle addition to your KOM / CR page.

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  • Worth noting that us mountain bikers do care about climbs, we want figures on who is the faster downhill as well, So change KOM's to KOD's for descents over 5%  ....maybe KOS's for flat sections - King of the Sprints!

    I personally think that segments under 1 minute should not qualify for KOM's/KOD's/KOS's

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  • A KOM on a descent seems to be asking for trouble on public roads, and is not in the interests of anyone's safety.  But KOMs on any gradient at all, whatsoever from 0% and upwards [positive] is great for competition and motivation.

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  • Or just change it to KoS/QoS...King and Queen of segments because it’s segments athletes are conquering, not mountains.

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