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Let users specify whether moving time or elapsed time is relevant to that activity

When runs or rides are uploaded to Strava, time spent stationary or with very little movement is ignored when evaluating the whole average pace of the activity.  So for example, a run last night where I had to stop for 50s to tie some shoe laces ignores those 50s when calculating the average pace.

For running, I think this gives a misleading impression of pace.  I can run 5min/miles for a mile, providing I run for 15s, stop, run for 15s, stop, run for 15s, stop, etc etc etc.  And if I recorded such an activity on Strava, that's what the activity would show.  

I would like to suggest a toggle switch for an activity - "Elapsed time or moving time" - which can be specified on run by run basis so that if I want to see my pace based on total elapsed time, I can; and vice versa.

I strongly suspect that this would be a feature only desireable for runners.

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  • Years and nothing updated.

    Goodbye Strava. Hello Runkeeper.

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  • Is there any update to this?

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  • There never will be an update. Strava couldn't care less. Without this functionality Strava is utterly useless. I highly recommend everyone to look at other platforms and sites. Stay away from Strava. They will never fix it. They don't even respond to support tickets or anything. What a joke of a company.

     

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  • Well, I'm not paying for premium just because of this "issue". Would someone from the staff care to explain what is the logic behind keeping this pace calculation method? I just want to be heard and maybe I will be convinced that this is the right way to go, if only one of you would explain this clearly. Seriously. It does not bother me much and I don't have respect for people who don't even properly train anyway, but I respect the sports and I expect Strava to respect the sports as well. Moving pace calculation is not even useful in any meaningful way. I can achieve the same 'Moving pace' with a thousand different ways and a thousand different run-rest combination because moving pace statistic is not CONSERVATIVE. I can run with a pace X for 5 minutes and stop for 2 hours then continue running with same speed, or I can run with pace X for 5 minutes and stop for 10 minutes and I can run for 2 hours with same speed and voila! I have exactly the same 'Moving pace' between these two different runs. Why? Because this statistic is completely meaningless. It's not conservative. So why have it? What can I possibly achieve by knowing that moving pace, exactly?

    If some staff would care to explain this thoroughly to me, I will be a completely satisfied customer and I will always pay for premium. I promise you.

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  • Hi Elle, 

    Has there been a solution made to this problem of elapsed versus moving time? 

    I run distance, and will occasionally hit stop lights where I have to pause my watch (Garmin Forerunner 230) and wait until the light turns green. Recently, Strava automatically switched my pace to be calculated using elapsed time, instead of moving time.

    Meaning, I'm now apparently at a much slower pace because of the stop lights I've hit during the progression of my run. I need "moving time" to be what's used to calculate the pace. There is a huge difference in my pace now from Garmin to Strava and it is highly frustrating. Hitting 5 stop lights on a two hour run is enough to turn my 9 minute pace into a 10 minute pace because of this Strava glitch... and I've certainly earned the right to see my 9min/mile pace! I submitted a ticket but have heard nothing yet. I would like this sorted out asap before doing my next run and continuing to be frustrated...

    Thanks,

    Lauren 

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  • I see moving time and elapsed time now on dashboard.  

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  • Hi lauren,

     

    You ran 10 minute miles. If you want to see 9 minute in your stats, you should run a little faster for a minute after you obviously rest at stop lights.

     

    In your logic I can even run with a pace of 3min/mile with fifteen 1 minute rests.

     

    Regards.

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  • The solution seems really simple to me. 

    If you edit your run and choose "race" under the tag option, then your time defaults to elapsed time.  So Strava obviously already has the capability to track time that way.  Why not just add a new tag that is titled elapsed time or total time or something like that.  Or add a trail run tag that defaults to elapsed time (like the race tag does).  There is not a MUT runner on the planet who wants their time defaulted to moving time.  I could give rip what my pace is on the road but I REALLY care what my pace and total running time is on trails.   

    Obviously I could just tag every run as a race, but that is also obviously stupid to have to label every run that way. 

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  • Justin, changing to "race" pretty much only changes the title. But all comparisons and other places still uses the silly moving time. As it is now, my egg clock is more precise and useful than Strava.

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  • Hello everyone, I can relate to the feedback discussed in this post.

    Although we don't have the resources available right now to invest in this feature request, we know that it's popular within the community. Our product team has the very difficult task of prioritizing the massive number of potential projects, and user input is just one data source that is factored into decisions.

    This proposed project will be considered as soon as resources allow.

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  • Elle, is this your way of saying that it will never be done? We have already waited for years for this very simple request. As it is now, Strava is utterly useless! How can you ignore such a fundamental requirement is beyond words.

    There you have it. All, go elsewhere. Strava couldn't care less and will never fix this. Please find another platform.

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  • I think the frustrating thing for some of us is that the app already has the ability to do what we are asking for -- by tagging a run as a "race," we get the data we want. So it does not seem that it would require much resource to make the option available as a default setting or a toggle, without having to go in retroactively to tag a run as a race. 

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  • I have to say I find it kind of funny, i find it kind of strange, that you don't have the resources to fix this since you obviously had the resources to make the changes in the first place. 

    Because this was not an issue before. 

    Lame excuse.

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  • Well, it was either being honest and saying 'guys, you are right about what you want but we don't care about you, we only care about money and majority of people likes seeing a faster pace than they actually run. So *** you.' or toying with us like she did. Again. The excuse is lame because there is no other logical excuse, this is the only one she can come up with.

    Elle, you could at least be honest with us. I'm disappointed in you and Strava. I've already planned my out, you are not indispensable. Just so you know.

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  • The race trick doesn't work well.

    Case in point: I ran 3.2 miles today in 0:25:23 (elapsed time). That is an average pace of 7:56 min/mi. Note I used the strava app to record this.

    When tagged as a RUN my strata activity states a moving time of 0:25:17. It says my average pace was 7:43. 0:25:17 min / 3.2 mi = 7:54 min/mi

    When tagged as a RACE my strata activity states an elapsed time of 0:25:23. It says my average pace was 7:44. 0:25:23 min / 3.2 mi = 7:56 min/mi

    None of the tags make any sense to me. If the app can't even do basic math I question its ability to even get the elapsed time correct. I will never again use the strava app to record a run. 

     

    Update: I uploaded the gpx to garmin connect and found out I actually ran 3.28 mi, not 3.2 mi. When tagged as a race strava used the elapsed time of 0:25:23 and 3.28 mi to calculate the 7:44 pace but decided to display 3.2 mi run. Seems like there is another issue of not displaying enough significant digits in the distance run.

     

     

     

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  • Why isn't this a feature yet!

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  • Elle's explanation defies logic as all they have to do is remove the moving time calculation formula, and the problem is solved.  Nothing new needs to be added...   I have created segments for all my routes that I run regularly and for every stretch that I would like to compare times on.  This completely bypasses Strava's lame decision to show moving time and not real time for an activity as segment times are based on the actual time.  Other than that, I use Movescount (as I have a Suunto), to evaluate e.g. my pace per km.

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  • As a trail runner 'moving time' is absolutely useless... My last big run had climbs at around 50%, all of which fail to show up under moving time. Across a 3hr run there was a 15 min and 1.5km difference between elapsed and moving.

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  • Strava simply doesn't want to do this. If they wanted they would have done it years ago as it's really easy and quick to implement. Go for a different platform. Strava couldn't care less.

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  • Waiting for this to happen.

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  • I agree - pace calculation should be based on elapsed time by default to avoid misleading activity data.

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  • I agree. And it definitely needs to be a default setting - "Do not use moving time calculation".
    In Hong Kong, moving time is always wrong because the GPS gets behind a building or a mountain for a few seconds, all the time. Moving time is constantly inflating my pace incorrectly. The feature DOES NOT WORK. It is a bug and a problem which pushes me towards preferring runkeeper.

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  • Showing moving time is completely useless - I have no idea why this would be the default. Just display the time from pressing start and pressing stop. simple.

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  • I agree! Sometimes I combine different exercises for strength with running. But when I stand still to do those exercise it is not counted as moving time. Looks weird and doesn't match my garmin data.

    Please Strava pick this up asap!

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  • i now save workouts as 'Race'. Then i get elapsed time

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  • Two years and Strava has done nothing about it. I'm going back to Free version

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  • My elapsed time is 46 mins for a ride i recorded using the strava app on my phone and the speed graph looks right for the 15 miles but for some reason it has moving time at 36 mins and avg speed at 25mph. How do i get it right?

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  • This seems like an easy fix. If elapsed time is used by calling the run a "Race" in the "Run Type" field, just add another choice call "Elapsed Time Only" or some thing like that and use the same code that the "Race" selection uses. This is simple. Virtually no new code needs to be written. Why is it still being discussed and not been fixed yet? 

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  • I like Strava and tried the free version several times. Segments are great.

    But the issue with the useless "moving time" makes me crazy ever and ever again. I can´t understand, why this is not changed since years. Who could like "moving time", but someone, that wants to cheat others or himself.

    Would go to premium immediatly, when this is changed. 

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  • Strava couldn't care less. If they did they would have fixed this years ago. It's such a simple ask. Even using the moving time, it doesn't work. Most of my runs I never stop, and even then the moving time shaves off random minutes. How hard is that? You run for 32 minutes non-stop and I want to see moving time of 32 minutes! No, Strava math geniuses think it means I must have run for 29 minutes, maybe 28! I have no idea why anyone would pay Strava for such a faulty buggy product.

    The only thing you can do is vote on this issue (press up arrow) and keep submitting bug reports. Stop paying for Strava! And even better, go elsewhere! Any other product out there is better!

     

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