View all Segments in Segment Explorer

I'm always looking for new segments to conquer and many times there are some good ones already defined that just don't show up on the segment explorer.  Is there any way to have a "see all segments" option?

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  • Hiding segments that aren't popular seems like a hacky solution to data sensitivity.

    If you really want to keep military areas out of strava results, why not track down known military zones and exclude from everyone? That seems like the real solution rather than this hacky popularity feature which just makes it so that road rides account for 90% of strava explorer results. 

    If you are in the military and you create a public segment on military land then it's that persons fault. They can create private segments or simply not create segments in strava if they don't want those locations exposed to the public. 
    Heat maps are a separate issue altogether. You can turn them off for your rides/runs/etc. 


    Lastly, the privacy zones feature should allow privacy for customers who want to use strava but don't want certain areas included in results.. It's really not that complicated. The software should give customers the ability to track what they want and hide what they don't.. Hiding based on popularity just makes it difficult to find segments if you aren't a roadie. 


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  • It's super annoying you have to find somone who has gone on the segment to view it because it does not show up in explorer 🤨 like why even have explorer... fix this asap I mean alot of the ones that don't show up are pretty damn popular aswell....😤

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  • Also quite sad that those "hidden" segments are not even visible using Strava's API. :-( Otherwise somebody could make an custom segment explorer application which would show every existing segment...

    EDIT: Actually got response from Strava API support that indeed if your lat & lon bounding box contains say two segments and you create a third new one (that nobody has ridden) to the area => it is not shown since it's only ridden by one person and hence not recognized as a "top ten"- segment?! 

    Quite weird policy indeed...how can a new segment become a top ten- segment is nobody is seeing it in the Segment Explorer?

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  • Yeah... here in my city of 250k+ I have segments with 50-100 efforts from a dozen+ people and they don’t appear on explorer.

    Strava, this sucks.

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  • I've never heard back on any comments I've made about this topic and nobody has any explanation so far.

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  • Agreed. Would love to be able to easily search for a good 5k or 10k routes in new cities or neighborhoods.

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  • +1 please

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  • Third party solution still doesn’t show small segments. Please fix Strava !!!

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  • +1

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  • Glad to see that I'm not the only one with this problem. Segment explorer is now mostly useless.   If I recall it took 3 years of complaining for them to finally update heatmaps (and the result was spectacular). So I guess I'm ready to wait and expact the new Segment Explorer to be ABSOLUTELY SPECTACULAR.

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  • Agree totally - absolute joke as only segments ridden regularly are displayed now as we are in a remote area and by default segments will be ridden less relularly.  Also most local segment times are set by riders in a race situation,,,,, Then are harder to find as this course is only popular once-a-year.....  I get a once-in-a-lifetime wind to break these race set segents and I can't even find them now.....  Please fix Strava......  'Segment Explorer' is a misnomer - it may as well be Google Maps for all it has to do with Strava segments now..............  Are e-bike segments recorded on phone being removed......????

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  • +1

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  • Same issues here here. I think STRAVA is trying to make money by selling segements in North Korea. FIX or REMOVE.

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  • do not know if "Segment Explorer" issue related, but noticed also some are missing if looking our route from other user's (following us) profile.

    Basically public created segment behave like private one: only visible by creator
    It is a difficult "bug" to find out since
    1)you need looking at your route from another user's profile (indeed I've discovered by accident)
    2)not all created (public) segments are affected
    Any ideas?

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  • Same problem for me. I create some new segment on new track in good place, but they are not on the explorer because they are not popular. So less popular segments will never be popular with this kind of filter. So due to this issue i'll stay free user.

    Peoples choose strava for segments. If you kill your spirit, you will loose users

    regards

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  • I was very excited when I saw the segments feature. I live in a rural area in which there are only 2 other people on Strava. I figured the segments map would be an amazing opportunity to show others the really awesome untapped riding we have out here. There are literally millions of rural acres without a segment on them and, due to the “popularity” threshold these places will not get on the platform. It’s sad. Perhaps Strava could institute a population factor in its “popularity” threshold? If all of the users in a 100 mile radius have ridden a segment... is it not popular?

    sincerely,

    all rural bicyclists 

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  • Is there really no official response to this for such a big issue from 2015? I just discovered Strava and thought this would be amazing, but I live in a rural area and there are no segments around at all, I figured I would create a bunch of fun routes, but what is the point if no one can discover them and join in?

    As many have noted, sure I understand they may have to cull some of them if there are tons, but they should always show at least 10 segments on the selected area, even if these happen to be new and unpopular.

    Or is there any good workaround? The only real workaround I've found is to create a google doc, and copy the links of your created segments and make a list, then others can follow the links, click on favorite and they will show up in their favorites, in time maybe enough people will make them popular enough. But it's a serious shit solution when they should really just show up on the map.

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  • Yep, same story here. I'm trying to boost up mountain biking here in Ruka skiresort and creating Segments was a very handy tool to get more people to ride amd to discover new trails. Now that Starva is giving us BS about popularity treshold, creating or finding new trails is basically impossible. Strava was a very good and useful app, now it's just useless.

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  • @Jonathan Smars, 

    The only way I have found other segments in more rural areas, is to find at least one segment at least somewhere close to you if possible, and then click on those runners who ran that route and see if they hit any other segments on that particular run.  

    It's how I found a segment right next to my house that literally only had 6 people attempt it. 

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  • It would really be nice if Strava acknowledged this.  The link to the blog at the top of this article leads you here:

    "Reach out to our Community Support team if you have any questions or want help.

    And when you get here all you find is more frustrated users. 

    Strava: Please get rid of the segment popularity change!!!  Please let James Quarles know our frustration.

     

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  • Would have nice to have seen this feature fixed instead of the time being spent breaking premium into 3 lesser packages.  When will the segment explorer functionality be restored?

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  • what is needed is for it to return all of the segments within a search area, paginated, not just 10.

    that also needs to apply to the API as well. it would also be useful if the API would return segments that start/end within the bounded area, not just those that are full contained in that area

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  • I think a filter for segment distance would make segment explorer much more useful. I'm trying to find some longer segments to do (I want to work on longer efforts), but I can never get them to show up. If I zoom out they are over-shadowed by all the short segments that are more popular (I only know about them if I encounter them by chance and see them after I upload). It seems that short segments by default are more popular. My hypothesis is that the shorter a segment is the larger the number of riders that encounter it will be, thus allowing it to become more popular. Some longer segments might be more popular if riders were able to seek them out instead of find them by chance.

     

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  • The identification of segments in a given area is the main issue for me that lets Strava down. An app that is all about segments but does not have a user friendly or acceptable way of finding them. you need to be able to expand the map to full screen to see all segments in a particular area not just a few selected ones.

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  • Good Idea @Justin Brubaker.  Strava just doesn't seem to care much about new features. There are so many simple things that could make it better. Athlete searches limited to an area for instance. 

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  • Yes extremely annoying, if you want to make your environment a little more interesting for other athletes

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  • Dear Strava developers, please, make a option to see not-so-popular segments. Thank you. 

    /You know, the army should prohibit the soldiers give their data and information public; it is up to them to order it and to follow this order. You are not repsonsible for it./

    Or PLEASE at least lower your algorithm - so the less (not the least) popular segments can be viewed. Because now it is quite high. 

    Thank you once more.

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  • this is still a very frustrating issue and it's really sad and disappointing that it has been an issue for YEARS. Stupid US soldiers, yes, but also a STUPID response to it by STRAVA.

    my version of what we need (in no particular order - all are number one):

    1) next n segments - user choice of 10/20/50 segments to appear in view

    2) toggle on/off segments that cross my current view but don't necessarily start and end in it

    3) filter by segment total ascent or descent, segment length, relative popularity within view (high/medium/low)

    4) ability for the segment creator to mark it as needing higher precision (ie. a narrower range of results can match the segment) eg. for when you get that situation where 2 segments are close to each other but are different length/ascent/profile/terrain underfoot

    5) provide the ability for validated organisations such as the US armed forces to create an over-riding privacy zone for specific GPS co-ordinates and prevent segments that cross those zone from appearing at all (or they could just train their personnel)

    6) ability to list my starred segments in a sortable order, and more than the top 100 - page thru all of them

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  • My Segments don't appear in my small town of 9,000.  I created 20 segments and they don't appear so all my running friends don't even know about them.  are you fixing this issue?????

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  • This has been an ongoing issue and Strava does nothing! I was once a Premium member and cancelled due to this. Retired military with 25yrs service and I can tell you Google Earth is a much bigger force protection issue than Strava. The military can/will enforce it's own control measures if it's that big of an issue.

    I have created routes in hopes of enticing other MTB riders to come try a certain area that I've ridden but of course due to the stupid popularity policy they dont even show up. I'm sure I'm missing out on a lot of great segments created by others as well. However, I do see hundreds of road bike routes that I'm not interested in but can't filter.

    Nice job Strava at making the Explorer useless...and not listening; Brilliant!

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